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Dear ppl who asks others to draw for 'exposure': by Qinni Dear ppl who asks others to draw for 'exposure': by Qinni
on my tumblr.

Edit: for actually industry pricing for freelancers and graphic artists, this is a good book to refer to:  The Graphic Artist’s Guild Handbook i have freelance friends who use this book and say it's really good, so....yeah, it's probably a good investment if you're starting out. i totally forgot about it before i saw that tumblr post, sorry~!)

for anyone still thinking it's okay to underpay or not pay artists because they're "new", please take a look at this.

Some excerpts include (quotes are the excerpts, comments are mine):
"simple illustration - Ext. Budget $5.00" - meaning that even if you spend 1 hour on a simple but finished, professional illustration, you'd only be making $5.00/hour.
"Children's Book Cover Illustration - 2 illustrations that are 18x18x in full colour; Est. Budget $25" - so even if you spend a very short 2.5 hours per cover painting, you're still getting paid $5.00/hour. But realistically we all know full-colour illustrations take longer than that so let's not kid ourselves and price it at $2.00/hour. Slave labor ftw :dummy:
"Cartoon Children's Illustrator - $70.00" - oh, that doesn't look ba- oh wait... "19 pages full colour plus cover." ....20 illustrations for $70, making it an average of $3.50 per illustration. awesome.

here's some more links: 
"A Note to you Should you be thinking of asking me to write for you for free"
"no spec work!"


I know I wrote a little much, but if you have time, please read :).

I feel like this is important because this whole attitude is the same that lets people steal other people's art and print it on phone cases, posters, tshirts and more. They don't view us as hard-working people but more like machines that just churn out art. Not to mention it kind of screws the whole industry value up....(like, why would they pay for you to draw anything if someone else can do it for free?). This means the whole market value of art goes way down. It also let's people feel like they have the right to cuss me out when I refuse.....

This was originally done because I saw ridiculous people comment on tumblr and drawing ridiculous comic response is a way I cope, but then I realized that there are more of these people on dA; in fact, I often get notes about doing projects for free because of possible "exposure" i would get (not to mention those contests that hardly pays the winner anything to design a t-shirt or whatnot), and I'm sure I'm not the only one. 

Some people don’t feel artists deserve compensation seeing as it’s not as “essential” as, say, doctors or plumbers….Of course, then there are those who think that artists don’t even deserve recognition, let alone payment, so they take away artist sources and comments, thinking that artists live off of the euphoria of drawing alone (and of course if we complain about it, we’re being selfish bitches or spoiled brats). 

Yes, recognition is amazing, but we also don’t want to work for free (unless it’s something you just REALLY want to do of course and isn’t looking to buy food with recognition coupons). There are plenty of great companies and people who hire artists, and these hired paid artists get plenty of recognition.

Also, Stephen Silver’s video on this is pretty great so take a look if you haven’t yet.


:bulletred: Please note: I don’t mean to say you shouldn't ever draw for anyone for free evar ever, but you deserve to be paid. Your art has value, and more importantly, your artistic skills have value and people should not expect it for free

This also is pretty good/funny: Should I work for free? a flow cart 

ps. Psst, here's a secret....the payout "recognition" and "exposure" is a lie 99.5% of the time. :)

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begginerartist12 Featured By Owner Aug 22, 2014  Student General Artist
My thought about this is, why the hell would someone pay you to make a design for a shirt for about $40, when they will be selling hundreds of the shirt at about $20-$30 a piece? Because they're cheap bastards, they let you do all the real work, and make the thing that people actually want, and then they sell it and take the majority of the profit. What should happen is that the person who made the design charges for a commission and a percentage of the profit. I've seen a lot of comics like yours, which is great by the way, but the situation maddens me to no end, and being a person who wants to go into the art industry, I'm glad I'm learning about this now. Speaking of, my art teach spent two days (he would have loved to teach a whole course but the school wouldn't let him) teaching us about this kind of stuff.
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MaxErikson Featured By Owner Aug 22, 2014
As an artist, all I want is recognition. As a design student, all I want is work experience. As a graphic designer, all I want is an income.
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RenOokami Featured By Owner Aug 24, 2014  Hobbyist
As an artist, you should want to be able to live from your art. Recognition (pepole seeing your art at it's true value) is often mistaken with fame (lot of views, fans and so on) nowdays, so no matter if you're art student or self taugh, pro or still hobbyist, as human living wherever you live, you will always need to make a living.

Commission = Request + Recognition = Work experience + Income :meow:
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Juro-Uisuko Featured By Owner Jul 17, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
You're awesome
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TribalGraces Featured By Owner Jul 10, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
This is great! I'm not a professional artist myself, but in many respects I can identify with the problem of people feeling entitled to my time, talents, and resources. That flow chart had me laughing out loud, and what's more, it was spot on.
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Granitoons Featured By Owner Jun 10, 2014  Professional Traditional Artist
I just had my pretty generous offer declined for someone who would do it for a pittance. It really does make our jobs harder when people udersell themselves.
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AvarianGuy Featured By Owner May 25, 2014
So true.
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AJInu-Okami Featured By Owner May 20, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
I got the book! Now time to read it ^^
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agoodcupoftea Featured By Owner Apr 27, 2014
A lot of this happens with translation, too. Esp with Asian languages. Unless you're white w/a degree. If I'm doing free translation, it better be for a family member, a friends, or on a piece of media I like. That aside, skill is valuable, and we deserve to get paid.
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dementja Featured By Owner Apr 26, 2014
Heh, good one. Actually same goes for each branch: recognition, experience (for experienced), whatever. Let's live off air, may we.
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